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Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 11 months ago #94715

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Got a subpoena today hand delivered to my door step to appear in court for my testimony on June 16th. So much for swift justice, but nice to know that something is happening.

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 11 months ago #94718

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The wheels of justice turn slowly...

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 11 months ago #94725

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I sure hope those d-bags get the book thrown at them!! To bad this incident is not making front page news as evidence of how lame others are... Everyone want's to make dirt bikers out to be the villans but here's a case where it's clearly the other side, yet no news?

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 11 months ago #94726

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So what happen? Dirt bikers got shot at?
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Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94763

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Yeah, what did happen? I've gotten some dirty looks from hunters up there on the single track, but never been shot at, that seems to only happen out west.
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Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94766

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It will be scary when a day comes that we feel we need a side arm to go dirt biking.
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Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94777

nblack300 wrote:
So what happen? Dirt bikers got shot at?


motoutah.com/component/kunena/9-ride-rep...t-up-af-canyon-today

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94817

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yellow_zinger wrote:
nblack300 wrote:
So what happen? Dirt bikers got shot at?


motoutah.com/component/kunena/9-ride-rep...t-up-af-canyon-today


Thanks for posting that, reading threw the thread was really interesting. I too spend alot of time up there and have alot of the same opinuons as others. I do carry a gun up there when I'm hiking only because of bears and mt lions (though a lion would probably get me first). You tend to get a look sometimes when someone sees you with a side arm, but it is still a piece of mind to have one. I cant ever see myself riding with one though, and I hope that day never comes. Here is some of the comments I totally agree with:

Horse people need to clean up their waste.
It's better to be tried by twelve than carried by six.
Better to ride AF during the week.
The right to ride the single track up AF is a pretty fragile one.

I too have been shot at out west, and it is pretty scary, but cooler heads prevailed and I didnt retaliate, but man being a gun owner that was really frustrating.
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Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94844

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Thats nuts. Some people are rediculous and shouldnt own guns.
I was in the same position yesterday. I live in Henderson NV right beside Black Mountain next to the dirt for anyone familiar with the area. I was out riding in the hills yesterday on some trails and i came up a hill, looked down to my right and saw an SUV with 3 guys beside it. I looked around for 5-10 seconds and saw the guys staring up at me. Next thing i knew i heard 3 gun shots pop off. Clearly they shouldnt have been shooting at me or anywhere near me as i was only about 25 yards away. Im positive they were pissed and trying to scare me away since they were all looking right at me. I got out of there in a quick hurry because i dont think my chest protector was gonna stop any bullets.
I only wish i was close enough to town to call in a report. Its very sad that people get so unhinged about dirtbike riders when there are clearly more destructive people out there causeing problems like this.
I hope that the fellas in your case get whats coming to them for their actions. Keep us informed.

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94849

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Gr8won,
You are actually in a position to help all dirt bikers out. I'm sure you already know this, but I'm going to throw it out there anyway. When you appear in court remember you are representing all of us. I would encourage you to dress appropriately, keep any temptations to stare down the defendant out of the courtroom, don't be dramatic, set quietly, show total respect to the court even if you disagree with something.

The judge is going to be sizing you up even before you take the stand. Don't exagerate anything, the judge will see through that immediately, he can also (usually) tell if your being honest and sincere. Be direct with your testimony, be convincing, look at the judge when you have something important to say, but don't insult the court by repeating the same thing over and over and most of all be Honest. Don't show animosity (hard to do) towards the defendant. Let the court see that you are the responsible land user here. If you feared for your life or safety, say so.

I don't mean to insult your intelligence in any way. I testify several times a week and simply want the best outcome possible for all of us in this case.
It's absolutely normal for you to get nervous when you take the stand. Your mouth may go dry, your tongue will get thick, your hands will shake, and your memory may slip, you will sweat like a whore in church and at times want to say anything just to get off the stand. To combat this go over your testimony several times. Anticipate what questions the defense attorney may throw at you, for example, " How do you know my client was shooting at you?"
Do the best you can and let the chips fall where they will. Doesn't hurt to have some support there with you, just make sure they contribute to your case by being appropraitely dressed and respectful in court.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Brad

PS - If this does not work a bat to the knees in the parking lot might. (lol)

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94871

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All four of us received subpoenas and so we are going to get together with a lawyer and get some advice on the best way to handle this so justice is served. We want what is best for the moto community.

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94877

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gr8won wrote:
All four of us received subpoenas and so we are going to get together with a lawyer and get some advice on the best way to handle this so justice is served. We want what is best for the moto community.


Good luck man.
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Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94880

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The prosecutor will be your attorney, there is no reason to hire your own unless you are looking at a civil law suit against the suspect. If your subpoena is for a criminal matter all you need to do is meet with the city/county attorney before court to get prepared and give your testimony. Save your money, the suspects are the ones who should be looking for an attorney.

Re:Update, Got shot at up AF canyon today 1 year, 10 months ago #94882

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I'm with twistit on the attorney, I would expect the prosecutor to setup an interview with the witnesses. I'd be pretty suspect if he does not.
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