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Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104063

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That wind storm caused some damage, their is huge tree's down across # 173 & # 040, I have a saw, but these are huge, I might hike up and cut them this week. I rather do that, than carry my bike over them. And if you see your buddy digging holes with his back tire, slap him please, I have already filled in way too many of those. They look bad, really bad.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104068

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That sucks. Let me know what day you go up. Sounds like a good excuse to take the Family for a hike. Do you have a chainsaw? Mine is at my cabin
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104071

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I was up there last Wed. There is a pretty big tree down on 252 also.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104080

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Sounds good, I have a Craftsman that should be able to handle it. I rode up # 252 yesterday from the summit, that one must be cut already. Be nice to know someone with a horse that is willing to help out, the one down on on 073 is going to be quite the hike in, no matter where you come from.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104084

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Why not just ride and carry the saw in a backpack?

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104090

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Where are the trees exactly and I'll report them. The one on #252 was cut away the day after I reported it. There was a couple of moto riders that took the Forest Service chainsaw course last winter. They are authorized to ride in and cut away. If the one on #173 is far in, I'll see if Kalyn or Cheryl can get a hold of one of them.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104093

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On a humorous side note, Saturday afternoon I met up with Rangers Kalyn and Aaron, to look over the #252 trail where we're going to do our work day projects on the 11th. Sometime during our excursion, a huge aspen tree toppled over the entire Cascade Springs Road, about a half mile up from Elk Camp. We must have got to it just a couple minutes after it fell. It was blocking both directions of traffic with no way around. They couldn't raise anyone on their radios to bring up a chainsaw and no one had a saw with them. The vehicle stopped in front of me had a tow strap so they latched on and was able to pull the tree enough to unblock about half the road so traffic could get by. The Rangers and I were wondering what to do when I remembered I had my Pocket Chainsaw in my Jeep. We thought what the heck, might as well try, even thought the tree would need to have 2 branches cut at 12-14" each. It took some work but we cut through them both in about 10 minutes. The saw works great for 4-5" stuff but these wore me out!

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104095

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tallsteve wrote:
Where are the trees exactly and I'll report them. The one on #252 was cut away the day after I reported it. There was a couple of moto riders that took the Forest Service chainsaw course last winter. They are authorized to ride in and cut away. If the one on #173 is far in, I'll see if Kalyn or Cheryl can get a hold of one of them.


Hey Steve, I'd like to take that course as well. 040 is towards the top and 073 is about mid section. Keep us updated if you hear about it, as I will hike in with mine if needed. not sure about riding with a chainsaw attached to my back at least not up 073.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104099

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YZ head wrote:
tallsteve wrote:
Where are the trees exactly and I'll report them. The one on #252 was cut away the day after I reported it. There was a couple of moto riders that took the Forest Service chainsaw course last winter. They are authorized to ride in and cut away. If the one on #173 is far in, I'll see if Kalyn or Cheryl can get a hold of one of them.


Hey Steve, I'd like to take that course as well. 040 is towards the top and 073 is about mid section. Keep us updated if you hear about it, as I will hike in with mine if needed. not sure about riding with a chainsaw attached to my back at least not up 073.


Hey YZ the chainsaw doesn't have to be running LOL hahahha
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104142

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LMAO

I've seen some great ideas for mounting saws on bikes but not going to be mine.
Like I said, if you need help PM me.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104148

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YZ head wrote:
Hey Steve, I'd like to take that course as well. ...


If you're interested, contact the Ranger District recreation staff or volunteer coordinator directly. Steve can fill you in with the contact info.

What you'll need is the S-212 class. It's a 2-day class followed by field certification. Field certification is good for 3-years. After it expires, you just need to re-certify (you don't need to take the S-212 class again). You'd probably certify as a "B", but that'll be worked out with the District.

Most Districts have S-212 class in the Spring for new seasonals who need saw training. Sometimes fire departments have them. You'll just need to check and see when they're planning to do one.

You'll need the required Personal Protection Equipment. The thing you probably don't have is saw-chaps or saw-pants. You may be able to check-out some from the Ranger District before heading out to work. Also, a full-face helmet reduces visibility too much, so you'll either need to carry a hardhat or you may get an exception. I use my trials helmet which is open face and cut so that visibility is unencumbered. It's important to be able to see around while working -- I've had trees fall nearby while working. But, the visibility is a bigger deal if felling, and you probably won't be doing that.

What I'm getting at is... talk to the FS folks and find out what's involved, what they expect, and so on. It may be more than you think. Also, there are real dangers, even with just bucking logs off trails. The S-212 training is worth taking and will make you a safer sawyer.

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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104155

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Thanks Sport Sawyer, I work close by to the PG office and will stop in to sign up. I have everything but the chaps. What do you recommend for a rack for the saw and where can I get one? You seem to have the perfect set up. Any more info would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your efforts on clearing the trails and keeping them safe and fun to ride for the rest of us.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104161

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YZ head wrote:
Thanks Sport Sawyer, I work close by to the PG office and will stop in to sign up. I have everything but the chaps. What do you recommend for a rack for the saw and where can I get one? You seem to have the perfect set up. Any more info would be greatly appreciated and thank you for your efforts on clearing the trails and keeping them safe and fun to ride for the rest of us.


It's a bit pricey but Pro Moto Billet has a nice saw plate holder for their racks.

www.promotobillet.com/catalog/product_in...4_84/products_id/206

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104164

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YZ head wrote:
... What do you recommend for a rack for the saw and where can I get one? ...


I have the PMB rack with their chainsaw plate (see link above). But I machined an additional mount that attaches to the PMB chainsaw plate.

Rear mounted saws are OK if you're tall enough to swing a leg over on rough terrain. I know some people who prefer front mounts that attach to the triple-clamps.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104182

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Sorry for the off-topicness, but Ive never rode AF Canyon, and after seeing all the posts about it on here, it seems like an awesome place to ride that fits my liking.

As soon and I get a bike or can borrow one, I want to head up there. Where can I get some info on it like maps and riding info?

Thanks!

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104187

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The downed tree on trail #40 is 5.7 miles from the Tibble Fork Reservoir going up from the bridge. You have to pickup the front of the bike to get by since it's on a side hill, a bit of a problem if you're riding alone but not too bad for two.

I didn't notice the mileage on the tree on #173 but I think it's about half way between #41 & #40. It is possible to ride around this one.

It was a nice evening for a ride tonight, not too cool, not too warm, not too crowded, not too wet, not too dry, everything was just right.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104218

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No more tree on 040. Me, yzhead, nvrsatisfied, and 2 of my friends man handled that beast off the trail by hand.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104220

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You guys must be supermen, that was a pretty big tree. Thanks.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104224

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Yes, we applied some Moto Utah muscle and eradicated the problem. The one on #073 will need to be cut though, it's bigger and greener.
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Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104231

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I've reported the downed tree on #173.

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104232

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dthoopes wrote:
You guys must be supermen, that was a pretty big tree. Thanks.


I took the first 1,000lbs the other guys handled the rest....

Re:Tree's down up AF 1 year, 5 months ago #104241

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Thanks Steve.
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